Introducing: The button-down Friday Polo
Picking what to offer in this next iteration of the Friday Polo was not a hard decision. So many readers have asked in the past few months for a button-down version of the PS polo.
That may be because there are more out there at the moment; or it might be because the other PS shirts are all button downs, and readers like that collar style.
Either way, the only difficulty was deciding on colours.
Though there again, the decision was partly made for me.
I've wanted for a long time to offer a light-blue version of the Friday Polo. It's the most universal and versatile colour of shirt, after all.
But the blues that Caccioppoli offered in the distinctive comfy piqué cotton we use were always too strong. Not the classic men's colour, and not that useful outside of strong sun.
Finally, last year, they introduced a really pale blue that was perfect. That's it shown under a lightweight green tweed jacket above and below.
So for colours we went with this pale blue, navy (always the most popular) and white. It felt like a good classic range for button downs.
Apart from the collar, these Friday Polos are the same as the classic style, introduced here on Permanent Style in 2015 as a casual alternative under tailoring.
The shirt is long, with fronts and tails the same as a dress shirt - not a polo shirt.
The collar is made with a proper, reinforced stand collar, so it sits up proud under a jacket (rather than collapsing under the lapels).
And that material is a heavy piqué that can be worn year-round, not just in summer.
There are also both aesthetic and functional elements of handwork - so hand-sewn buttons and buttonholes, but also a hand-inserted sleeve and hand-rounded collar, to give the Friday Polo the same functionality as a good Neapolitan bespoke shirt.
It is designed to be, and has become for many people, the perfect thing to wear in a casual office to look well-put-together but in no way corporate.
Oh, and by the way - for any copycats out there - the Friday Polo is not a generic name for a shirt in this style. It is a very specific name and design, put together by myself and shirtmaker Luca Avitabile.
I had to ask one Korean brand to stop referring to their version as a ‘Friday Polo’ last year, and their response was that they thought the name was just what English people called a polo shirt.
I’m pretty sure I believe them. Either way, they’ve now stopped using the name. Even though they’re still selling the same design, in the same colours, in much cheaper cloth.
There are more details about the Friday Polos, their making in Naples and the cloth on the shop site here.
Meanwhile from a style point of view, I’ve pictured the navy polo (above) with tobacco-linen trousers, to show how nice a colour it can be with similarly strong tones in the summer. See also cream and most greens.
And below - in order to show the opposite use - the white polo is underneath the shawl cardigan we sold recently with Anderson & Sheppard, and brown whipcord trousers. Much more for chilly Spring mornings.
That trouser material is 9518503 from the Holland & Sherry Dakota bunch - probably the best range of whipcords or cavalry twills. The charcoal is great too. Both are 13.5oz.
The green checked jacket was part of the Drake’s collaboration we did a couple of years ago, using Escorial wool - details here.
That’s worn with trousers in Fox mid-grey flannel (CBT5/A1285/22, 13/14oz), while the linen trousers are the bottom half of my Dege & Skinner suit.
The button-down Friday Polo is available on the PS shop page here. (Although some has already gone to the waiting list, who had an alert about the availability yesterday.)
There are details on sizing and other points there too. We will do the normal-collar Friday Polo again, but not until the Autumn.
Do shout if you have any other questions.
Thanks, Simon
Photography: Alex Natt
The shirt actually puts me in mind of one of my favourite shirts from the mid-sixties, the Sabre Saturday Shirt. Same style, similar name, though not the quality.
Hi Simon,
This may have been asked before, but is it possible to shorten the sleeves from the cuff on a pique polo?
Yes it is.
Thanks!
Personally, I wish the sleeves were a little longer. The Friday Polos have sleeve a little too short for me. The extra 3 cm on the oxfords and demin shirt bring them to being much better for me (if still not quite perfect–but that can’t be expected in a standard sizing).
Thanks, noted
Simon, on size, I was wondering about the possibility to offer the polos without the pre-washing or a tad bigger/longer. To give a bit of context, I ordered some polos from Luca in the past to get colors not available in your shop at the time, and since his versions are slimmer I asked them to be made to your size chart.
When delivered they were almost a full size larger, and after some back and forth emails, we realized they didn’t take the pre-washing into account. So I threw them in a 60 cycle and they came out great, better than any of the ones I got from your shop actually, just had that extra sleeve length and volume needed.
Not sure why they’re bigger than the ones I got from you, might be down industrial vs home washing.
Hi Simon,
Would you consider making a full buttoned version of this? I always found pullover shirts like these difficult to use in the summer months, simply because I cant get them off properly when having built up sweat during the day. And so, I started to order pique shirts in a normal shirt design instead, and voilá problem solved. And, I find it goes better with a sportcoat, since you dont have that interruption midchest where the collar ends.
Thanks Nicolas. I can certainly see that point.
To be honest, though, personally, I’ve never liked full button-through versions. They often don’t seem to sit right on the body, and part of the point of the style is to see the placket ending half way, making it look more casual.
Interesting. In what way have you found that they dont sit right on the body? I havent noticed anything like this myself, rather the opposite. The ones with placket I have a RTW and I never could get that collar or gap in the placket to sit right. May try to have one made with Luca at some point though.
I found they were more likely to get stretched one way or the other across the body – because the material has so much more stretch than a regular shirt
I’m with NS on this. I have a ton of pique cotton button through shirts with button down collars and don’t recognise your concerns Simon about stretching at all. Maybe it’s down to the quality of the fabric used.
This short placket version looks a bit of a mongrel to me I’m afraid.
I think a full-buttoned version would rather defeat the purpose of this polo. There are plenty of options available if you want a sport shirt that buttons all the way down while being of a more casual cloth.
The placket here is a perfect length to just about fill the length of the opening between the lapels.
I’m not someone who always likes absolutely everything that Simon does, but he is on to a winner with all of his shirt offerings.
By the way, Simon, you didn’t state it explicitly (that I can see), but you imply that you have some sort of copyright on the ‘Friday polo’ name. Is that right? I’m just curious as you were able to get the Korean company to cease using it.
Hey Matt,
No, I’ve never registered the name. (It would be a trade mark, not copyright.) I just asked nicely.
Unless I’m mistaken, the very first version of the Friday polo actually featured a button through version too, but they were vastly less popular and therefore not renewed. So there’s probably a bit of experience and science backing the pop over style too.
Good point, yes JB
Hi Simon,
Not sure to go for a small or medium, if I purchase the wrong size can I return it for replacement?
Please provide address where to return it to.
Cheers,
Chuck
Hi Chuck,
Yes you can – please have a look at the terms and conditions on the shop, where it states all the (free) returns details. We use an online system through Shopify and you get a label to use with DHL.
Cheers
I also had some pique cotton shirts made up fully buttoned. I think I prefer the polo placket- too many buttons! The collar still needs some work on my version as its a little too floppy to sit nicely under a jacket. Simon I feel your pain. We did manage to source UK made pique cotton in other colours including natural (ecru); light pink and yellow which is a nice change of pace to those I’ve seen offered by the usual vendors.
Which would you say is the most versatile color in this polo Simon? Seems like all three are super versatile. Also, any picks if just the pale blue with no jacket?
I’d say the pale blue is most versatile with tailoring, the navy without
I’d wear the pale blue, without a jacket, with anything you’d wear a blue oxford shirt with – ie almost anything
I think what I meant to say was do you have a picture of just the pale blue without a jacket?
Thanks!
Ah, I see. No sorry, I don’t
Would you consider making a lambswool and thus cheaper version of the shawl collar cardigan?
Probably not Mike, sorry. There are similar sweaters to this out there, but the point here was to make the ultimate in terms of materials, details and make
So…uh…can we get a link to that cheaper Korean alternative…asking for a friend…
Just Kidding of course! The shirts looks amazing and will be perfect as Spring gets closer.
Hello Simon – will Luca be able to offer a bespoke version to existing customers?
Yes
The new button down version looks good and better ( in my opinion) than similar polo styles at a higher, let alone lower, price point.
Are there any plans for a summer PS pop up shop this year?
Also are there any shops stock the new PS Friday polo to try on for size ? I seem to recall something in the past.
Hey Stephen,
Thanks. Yes, the next pop-up will be on Savile Row (same location) for two weeks from March 17. It was recently announced on Instagram.
And yes, the Friday Polos are held in all sizes at Whitcomb & Shaftesbury in London, Stefano Bemer in New York, and Prologue in Hong Kong. They don’t have the button-down version, but all the sizing (including collar) is the same.
Hi Simon,
I would love to see a white button-down lightweight Friday Polo.
Well, I don’t think we’ll do white again as most people found it too transparent. But we could do it in navy this summer?
I see. A navy button-down in the lightweight cotton would certainly be welcomed. It would be more versatile when worn without a jacket and the lightweight cotton would see more wear in tropical and warmer climates. I’m looking forward to it in summer.
The Drakes jacket looks fantastic! Do you know who Drakes used to make it?
Belvest I believe
Hi Simon,
Exceptional! I’ve got plenty of polos, but have been interested in one of yrs for a bit now…..This one, in the style of a classic popover definitely has me interested. I’ll have to check the price point and my budget, but I love the idea.
Hi Simon, I have a sizing question. I’m probably between a S and M and recently acquired the Dartmoor in a medium, which fits my chest/shoulders great, but is probably a tad loose in the waist and arms. I’m normally a 38 in tailoring, for what it’s worth.
Was wondering your thoughts on if I should size down to small (a little worried about yoke length) or size up to medium (a little worried about waist and arms being a tad roomy.
Love the Dartmoor by the way, enjoying just wearing that stand alone and can’t wait to do so when things get warmer here in Seattle.
Oh good.
I’d probably go for a medium, and perhaps have the waist taken in a little if you need.
Though I have found some of this is personal preference with the polos, as the stretch they have means they rarely feel tight – and that’s sometimes the look people want.
Also remember we offer free returns (a requirement, I think, of anyone that doesn’t have a store), so you can order both and return one
Received my size M today — fits perfectly. Thanks!
Oh good. Thanks for writing to say so Derek
Unrelated to the polo (which I think doesn’t look strong with the checked tweed jacket) – How’s it going with the tattoo, do you still like it?
Thanks on the jacket. Perhaps a plainer colour would be easier.
And yes, still loving the tattoo. It feels very special and personal, and I think I made the right choice on size and location – having the option to show or not.
The only twinge I get is when I see other people with what I think are terrible tattoos
Simon, as a regular PS reader and appreciator of all the site does, I really recommend you alter the wording “ for any Asian copycats out there…”
It’s borderline offensive.
Thank you Russell, and I take your point. While all the copycats I see are from Asia, I do not mean to imply that all are, or that it’s somehow related to their Asian-ness. I’ll change it now.
Thanks for bringing it up
Good grief Simon! You spoke correctly concerning Asian copycats because they’re all from Asia! Please do not pander to the politically correct barbarians and stand your ground.
I think it’s a legitimate point VSF. As someone else pointed out by email, there is a difference between copycats from Asia, and Asian copycats.
I would also suggest that it’s worth taking a bit more time to consider someone else’s point of view, and avoiding what the internet drives us towards, which is knee-jerk reactions and binary simplicity.
Not everyone did that when they made the point about my phrasing. Some were equally knee-jerk. But I replied to the ones that were more reasoned and reasonable.
We should all strive to be so.
Thank you.
That’s a distinction without a difference in my view, but of course if you want to change the wording that’s your call. Personally I took no offense, not even a borderline one. You were very clear in what you meant. Certainly you’re correct that knee jerk reactions are best avoided with consideration of another’s perspective the better course.
Thanks VSF, pleased we can agree on the principle if not the action
Given my Friday polos are in heavy rotation every week, this is a nice addition.
Do they also feature the enforced placket introduced in the last run? I’ve yet to give they a go, so I figure this is a good opportunity.
Yes they do
Simon,
I am interested to know if you have found yourself wearing the button down Friday polo or the original cutaway collar Friday polo more.
Or does one favor a particular setting more than the other?
I wear them both, perhaps the button-down more with more casual clothes, but only a little
Nice to see PS plowing an elegant furrow.
Yesterday I received ‘The Mr Porter Post’ and felt positively ill.
They are promoting psychedelic nonsense, the return of the mullet and lessons of how to tie-dye at home !
This is a sure sign that the menswear business is on hiatus and their response is to try and make us look ridiculous.
A return of psychedelic, tie dye, and worst of all the mullet? Say it’s not so, please. If Mr. Porter is recommending any one of those hideous things, let alone all three, they’ve descended into fashion depravity.
Hi Simon
Having recently purchased the Friday polo and wore it, it looks well designed and the collar sits upright above a tailored jacket, for those people with shorter torso a third button on the placket will be required to avoid exposing the chest when the second is unfasten and those with a longer torso can go with a two button on the placket as the length of their torso can help eliminate the gap.
Your thoughts?
Thanks HO.
The number and placement of buttons can’t be right for everyone unfortunately. It depends not just on the size of your torso, but also on how you personally like to wear the shirts and how much chest you want to show
Simon,
I will like to commission a bespoke on the Button Down Friday Polo do you know if that is possible with Luca?
Yes it is, though it will require an appointment to meet him
Possible to have the light blue in the lightweight version of Friday polo late in this year?
Unfortunately not, it doesn’t come in that colour I’m afraid
Hi Simon,
May I know why my payment receipt invoice is not included in the shipping box. I will need it to reclaim my VAT.
Cheers
You should have received an email containing it. Do check your spam folder in case.
Hi Simon, received the navy BD polo in Navy and impressed with the cloth and workmanship. This is a versatile shirt and glad you worked on a BD version. Hopefully other colors (i.e. green and brown) will be produced down the line.
Oh good. Thanks
Simon, will there be another run of these, given how quickly they sold out in various sizes?
Yes, we’re trying to get one through quickly now. Hopefully it will be less than two months
Are you running a waiting list for the 2nd run?
Yes, always. Email [email protected]
Is there an option to try different color/ sizes in a store in London? Looking at photos a bit hard to decide…
Whitcomb & Shaftesbury has the size run, though in the old style so you won’t be able to see the collar or light blue colour.
But I’m dropping that in to them on Monday, so it will be there then.
Great thank you
I hope you will restock these in large again. I came to this site just a little too late. This polo looks to be something special.
We will, yes. Do email [email protected] to be on the waiting list
Simon, could you please let us know approximately when do you expect the restock to occur? Thank you.
It should be next month, but things are rather uncertain in Italy right now. Most factories are still running, but it seems unlikely they will do for long
Hi Simon,
On a lighter note, on the subject of maker’s marks:
“in the first century AD, imitation Roman pottery was produced in Belgium. Although, owing to their ignorance of Latin, infringers’ marks were often simply meaningless collections of letters, they still deceived the still more ignorant Britons who imported the pots.”
From ‘IP rights: a critical history’ by C May and SK Sell.
Cheers
Has the Spring 2020 Friday polo fabric changed at all from your 2015 launch?
If I wish to order through a shirtmaker I would just say Caccioppoli navy blue Friday polo? Is there a fabric # reference?
No, the cloth is the same.
‘Friday polo’ is our name for our model – it won’t mean anything to Caccioppoli or designate anything about the cloth for a shirtmaker.
I think if you ask for Caccioppoli pique cotton though, for a polo shirt, they only offer one.
I’m afraid I don’t know the swatch numbers.
If we buy a PS product from a country that doesn’t require VAT, but ship it to the UK or Italy, we still have to incur VAT?
Yes, I’m afraid so. VAT calculations work on location. Though if you then take it out of the EU, you can work through local customs to claim the VAT back.
My off the rack shirt size is 15-33. Does this translate to a small?
Either a small or a medium – but please, do measure a shirt you already have, and compare it to our measurements. That is by far the safest option to ensure you pick the right size.
I’ll try measuring but I don’t have a good track record and and I’d rather save you the return shipping if I can help it.
Not sure if they’re equivalent, but I have a permanent style Oxford in size small that fits well. For Luca Faloni, I take a small for their polos and medium for their cable knit sweaters (I prefer slightly more fitted for shirts and polos and a bit more room for sweaters). My chest circumference is just over 37 inches.
I think a small might be best then, but do try measuring just as a check. It’s a lot easier to measure garments than it is to measure your body, and it gives an idea of the style you like very effectively too.
The combination of that and this information will probably be the best way to avoid size exchanges
Simon, what do you think of “popover” shirts such as those made by Drake’s or Ascot Chang for The Armoury? Thanks!
I think they can be nice if you see them like a long-sleeved polo shirt – a nice alternative to a shirt in summer.
But not something you personally wear? Don’t think I’ve seen pictures of you wearing one.
Generally, no. I have one white one, which I do sometimes wear as an alternative to a shirt in summer. But I would describe them as a nice alternative, and therefore only as one or two in the wardrobe
Simon – what size do you wear in this? Thank you. Debating between M and L and I think you’re a little taller than me but I’m a little broader in the shoulder. It’s pique, so it will have some give, right?
Yes exactly, there is a lot of natural stretch in it.
I wear Medium and it fits me well
Thanks – medium worked well for me too. A little snug though, particularly in the sleeve, and I’m no Arnold Schwarzenegger. The material is heavier than I expected too, but then again you did say it could be worn year round. If you restock the lightweight version that might be better for summer.
Thanks Peter.
Yes, the material is deliberately different, because this is not a piece for summer. It’s a shirt alternative for the whole year.
We do offer a lightweight alternative in the summer, which will probably be back in June – in navy.
Hi Simon
May i know is it the same size of the existing friday polo? as i bought one Friday Polo –
Light Grey / Small last year (Tue, 18 Jun 2019)
May i know if they are the same size or not, because if i have not remember wrong, the chest of size S should be 96cm, instead of 102cm, correct me if wrong
Yes Stanley, the size is exactly the same – only the collar is different.
Let me look at the measurements. Are you going off the one you have, or a previous table?
i mean previous size table, i dont really recall it is 96cm or 102cm,
but i do have a impression on chest 96cm, thats why i wondering
OK, thanks Stanley. We haven’t changed the table that I can recall, but I’ll check against just in case.
Either way, this button-down polo should be the same dimensions as the one you already own.
Cheers
Hi Simon, I hope all is (relatively) well where you are.
Might I ask for a suggestion? I’m torn between sizes M and S for this polo. Comparing them to ones I own, the M would fit perfectly everywhere but be too long in the arms. If I size down to S, it’s the sleeve length that’s perfect with the shoulder width just about tolerable, but the narrower shoulders would pull the sleeves higher and make them shorter than on my other shirts.
Where would you suggest I compromise: sleeves too long, or too short?
P.S. I’m leaning towards the M, though I’d be even more at ease with it if the cuffs have two buttons for adjustable opening width.
I think if you had to choose, Joseph, I’d go for the M, as you can always fold the sleeves back a little bit. But do feel free to take both and see which you prefer – we offer free returns, so that’s an easy thing to do.
We should be getting more in about a fortnight by the way. Do email [email protected] if you’d like to be on the waiting list
Your wisdom is much appreciated as always, Simon.
You mean there isn’t any stock for the button-down variant right now? Oh I’m such a goof, I should’ve asked first, haha. I was going off of the product page for it (none of the sizes and colors have greyed out the Add button.) Thanks for the head’s up, and I’ll certainly be emailing to be put on the waiting list.
There is stock, just not in all colours and sizes. But it’s actually me getting it wrong – there is availability in small and medium in all the colours, so you can go ahead!
Wonderful, I’ll take the plunge with the Medium. Thanks again!
No worries Joseph, happy to help
Simon! I took delivery today of the size medium in white that I ordered, and my fears with the sizing were wholly unnecessary. They fit me exquisitely.
Such a wonderful piece of craftsmanship with subtle pleasures to be discovered in nearly every inch. I’m sure it’ll become a favorite for years to come, especially since I’ve always wanted a long-sleeved polo.
I’m still somewhat giddy, haha. Anyway, much thanks to you and to Luca for dreaming up and making this undeniable classic a reality.
That’s so, so lovely to hear Joseph. Thank you very much
What makes the collar stand up? Is it fused or partly fused? Or is it lined?
The thing that makes the collar stand up inside the collar of a jacket is its relatively high position on the body of the shirt, its shape, and its hand make.
It is a fused collar (which I prefer, even on all my bespoke shirts) but that isn’t what helps it stand up.
Hi Simon,
Absolutely love the Friday Polo and about to buy the button down version too.
However, more pressing given the temperatures would be a short sleeve polo.
Is there any chance the Friday Polo will be available again with a short sleeve?
Best
Arndt
No, sorry no plans for a short-sleeved version
Hi Simon,
Luca also has Friday Polos on his website. What is the difference between them?
Is the make the same, he just has some more colours (and does not offer button-down version currently)?
Yes exactly – otherwise all the same
Hi Simon,
Could you advise on the measurements for the height of the collar back and front as this would give an idea with my other bespoke shirts.
Thanks
Rupesh
It’s all on this latest post Rupesh
Out of interest, what are the weft and warp?
Are you asking what weft and warp mean, Eric? Or what they are in this material?
To be clear though, this material is knitted – as all jerseys are, including regular T-shirts – so it doesn’t have a warp and a weft.
Right, thanks. I didn’t realise that. Perhaps because I’m pretty sure I’ve also seen some ‘jersey’ and ‘pique’ cottons that did have a warp and weft.
The reason I’m asking is because I want to choose a decent fabric to have something similar made as your sizing doesn’t work for me.
Ah, I see. Well this material isn’t exclusive to us (unlike all the others). It’s available from Caccioppoli – their standard jersey. So most shirtmakers should be able to source it.
Got it, thanks
Hi Simon,
The Friday Polo looks fantastic with the button down collar. Do you have any plans to make a lightweight version of the same, available this year? many thanks
Hi David,
No, not currently. Sorry.
Hi Simon,
I have checked the measurements against a polo which I own and the chest size is 110 cm with a 47cm yoke . I also have an oxford shirt with chest size 112cm with 46.5 cm yoke.The medium friday polo is 108 cm in chest. I think that L will be too large. What do you think? Or should i get L and then take in the waist and some from chest?
It sounds like you might be between sizes Michael. The nice thing about the polos is they have a lot of natural stretch, so they won’t feel tight.
Still, it is usually best to get the shoulders and chest right, then adjust the waist. So I would suggest that. Or, feel free to buy two sizes and return one.
Hi Simon,
If one were to have only one of the Friday polos, which colour would you choose ?
To wear mostly with tailoring, whether suits or separate jackets/trousers. I’m tempted with black, but I am afraid that it isn’t the most versatile.
No, I’d say navy would be the most versatile there, or white
Hi Simon, I was wondering what you would recommend wearing with Luca Avitabile polo during the winter season?
Thank you.
Hi Kwan,
The polo isn’t great under knitwear, but it can be OK under a shawl-collar cardigan – see example here.
Other than that, I would wear it under a heavier tailored jacket.
Hallo Simon,
since I started to wear mine under knitwear yesterday and found it very nice, may I ask why you would advice agaist it. I have the button-down-version and think it wears similar to an OBD.
Thanks,
Manuel
I find there’s a lot of friction between the polo and the knit, which makes it hard to get on and off. It’s also a little thick.
But if those things don’t bother you then it should look good. Particularly in the easier colours to combine, like white
Thank you for your response.
May I ask why it isn’t great under knitwear? Is it because it looks/feels disproportionate?
As I had a chance to read your article “The Polo shirt under knitwear”. I also think I have a relatively long neck and like wearing round-neck/v-neck knitwear during the winter season, with an oxford shirt underneath, as I don’t enjoy wearing poplin every day. But, sometimes, I feel like I want to wear an even more comfortable collared shirt underneath, which was why I was considering wearing Friday Polo underneath the knitwear.
It’s because the material is thicker – the more regular kind of polo shirt I featured that article is much slippier and thinner.
That kind of polo can be great under knitwear, if the collar is of a good height and structure.
Simon!
What is your opinion on shirt being cut in style of polo, meaning a regular collared cotton or linen full sleeve shirt but just two to three buttons?
Do you think it could be good casual shirt and alternative to polo?
Yes, that can be nice Monty
In summer without a jacket would you prefer long sleeve or short sleeve polo? Which of it do you find more stylish?
Usually, long sleeve. I prefer to do that and push up the sleeves than wear a short sleeve most of time
Do you think in summer a long sleeve navy polo with some medium wash jeans and some nice shoes could be an elegant combination?
Yes that sounds nice
Hi Simon, I bought the Friday Polo in medium but it seems like the waist and upper back is slightly big for me. Would you suggest taking in by making darts or cut off the fabric for the alteration?
Many thanks,
Jack
I’d talk to an alterations tailor about it Jack, but probably cut the side seams, unless you’re slightly unsure about the fit and might want to change it back, in which case darts might be better.
Also anything above the bottom of the armhole won’t be affected by changing the side seams, and you don’t really want to take darts that high either. I’d leave the back – it’s unlikely to be unflattering – but if you really want to, maybe ask for little tucks or a box pleat to be put in
Sure, thanks. I have spoken to the tailor, and he suggested cutting the side seams. Also, he recommended slimming down a bit more at the hem than the waist as he thinks it would be better when I tuck into the trousers. Would you agree? Or should I request to keep the same with the waistline?
I’d probably go with his recommendation
Hi Simon, I tried wearing a white PS Friday Polo with mid grey fresco trousers and a dark brown sports jacket, but something doesn’t look right to me. The jacket and trousers suddenly look so formal when I’m on white polo. I’m unsure whether it’s due to a clash of the colour combination or texture. Do you think it may be the mid-grey fresco?
Many thanks,
Jack
Perhaps Jack. Hard to tell remotely. Do you like the look of the polo with linen trousers?
It would look nice, but I don’t particularly appreciate wearing linen trousers with a jacket in general. They crease too quick and feel like it changes the silhouette of the look I was aiming for to me. This is why I prefer wearing tailored cotton trousers, but when I heard your point about the cotton trousers, it convinced me that they might look ‘old mannish’.
The mid-grey fresco trousers have single backward pleats. Would it be better if they were flat fronts? Also, colour wise, do you think a dark brown(textured) sports jacket, PS white Friday polo, and mid-grey should work fine?
Yes, the colours should work. The pleats might make a difference, but only a small one. With linen, if you haven’t then worth trying the heavier, Irish linens. The difference in creasing is significant
Great, thanks, Simon. I shall try the Irish linens then. For the colour, would light beige work well with linen trousers? as I am a bit reluctant with cream with linens, I am hoping to find a versatile piece as possible.
Yes, a pale beige or at least a cream that isn’t too pale is helpful. See here for example
Thanks. How would you do the length of the linen trousers? If I observed them right, I have noticed that you leave yours pretty similar to your other materials trousers. Would you not suggest shortening them a bit more than my usual trousers’ length?
No I wouldn’t, particularly as linen will shorten a bit anyway with wrinkling, and perhaps with cleaning.
But then I have my trousers a little shorter than some anyway.
Simon, is it OK to hang these, or do they need to be folded like knitwear? I prefer to hang but I don’t want to stretch, misshape, or otherwise damage them. Thanks.
I would fold them. They could become a little misshapen over long periods of time
Hi Simon, I’m contemplating the Friday polo for use under tailored jackets. Do you prefer the button-down version for that look or the regular collar version? Many thanks!
I like both actually Tom – we don’t sell the regular version currently though